I came in yesterday 3 mails of M º Javier Zentner, whom you will remember for launching the initiative to do a "March coral "seeking more government support for business.
In one such mail, asking me to publish Zentner following:
"Dear Johann:
I have read with interest the exchange of messages and opinions raised at the site Corollary, referring to the failed call to file a petition to the authorities of Culture of the City of Buenos Aires, episode occurred between November 2006 and April 2007 and still continues its evolution.
As I have already been cited repeatedly for clarification purposes and update information about others, I am writing to request that you publish this in the same place which have been issued the reference (my computer skills and my patience has not been my intention to fruition solve directly).
understand that there is no need to elaborate on the motivations of the covocatoria. In messages sent to various networking sites and discussion forums can follow the process.
My decision to try to involve ADICORA in the call is supported by the reality that is the only institutional body composed of many of my colleagues and myself which I participate. It did not seem right to move towards completion of the act without first having exhausted the bodies of discussion that would allow the accession of ADICORA. In the Assembly earlier this year, coinciding with the renewal of authorities, asked to include discussion of the topic in the agenda. The petition was accepted by the outgoing Executive Committee. Of the nearly 90 associated with the City of Buenos Aires Branch, came almost one third (29). My presentation was met by the arguments of other colleagues (most of them members of the current address), who accepted the justice of the claim, but rejected the proposed methodology. Put to a vote, the order of institutional took 3 (three) votes to 25 (twenty five) against and 1 (one) abstention. Subsequently, it was a personal decision to put to my colleagues on the Promotion Committee (Silberleib Marcelo and Fabio Valente), which we acted outside ADICORA, the appropriateness of suspending the mobilization waiting for the new Board of Directors of ADICORA solve some strategy. Those times happen at the moment and I suppose that the next meeting (June 10), there will be something new (and had a conversation during the first meeting of the Steering Committee).
In my opinion, the Community Choir is a group that includes ADICORA, but extends more broadly to other members of the Community (coreutas, composers, journalists, producers, relatives), we have no organization as such. I hope ADICORA make a positive resolution in a reasonable time for once and - if possible - for ever, the coral has a space language ongoing sharing of resources for the common good. This implies: scenarios, newspaper, computer, design, recording studios, personal, etc. And schedules planned and organized from the relevant structures, including coral language in its various expressions. All this without having to affect the already rich dynamics that thankfully we can generate outside the official area.
For a definition of "elitist" I read in one of the messages, let me clarify to whom it is issued, you do not need a "slip" to enter the Choral Directors Association. The "titles", such as scores, is a tool and a testimony, but not a sufficient condition. Several of the directors who share ADICORA lack of "slips" and endorse our condition can change from our mere background and consideration of our colleagues. Among other things, the Association to share experiences and organize to obtain community benefits.
A final paragraph, with particular target, "Borinquen" is the name the original inhabitants of Puerto Rico gave his land. Puerto Rico is far from Peru. Almost as far as the right of anyone to doubt the nobility of my intentions when I get involved in affairs of my activity. Also define attitude as "bite" to the possible mobilization of Coral Community is something that, in the '70s called - to paraphrase Landru - "fat lady things."
An affectionate greeting to you and who, with his well-meaning contributions enrich the forum. Javier Zentner
"
not convince me the tone used by Zentner, where he shares a few slaps to several friends of the house (I also received mine in another mail), but I agree with him various topics. In particular, I agree that it is a good time for FCBA ADICORA is issued in terms of mobilizing support or not, having spent 6 months! the original call.
The problem is that we all know, elections were held yesterday in Buenos Aires, and the result looks rather discouraging for those who intend to invest in cultural areas. Neither participants next ballotage seems very committed to promoting cultural events, and that one of them is the minister of Education and Culture.
Perhaps for this reason, now more than ever necessary mobilization.
also agree that not every statement to the authorities should be considered a picket line. As I said, I think the picket a demonstration of arrogance, which generally leads to rejection and subtraction possible accession of other sectors of the community (unless the subject is really valid, as in the case of citizens of Gualeguaychú). On the contrary, a demonstration organized and out of the way the normal development of the rest of society, it seems a perfectly valid application to be noticed by the authorities.
But again, I really like the tone used by Zentner. Okay, in this blog and the comments in the post "no turning A march" made some insinuations about his person and his possible motivations for organizing this movement (I apologize for the part I played), but anyway I think that for it to have any chance of success, it is imperative that we are all united and pulling in the same direction. Even with all our differences, we are all in the same boat, and if we fight among ourselves, we will not achieve anything positive.
May we all bring a bit of goodwill and willingness to help resolve the question, and move forward on this initiative.
I look to await their comments,
Johann
In one such mail, asking me to publish Zentner following:
"Dear Johann:
I have read with interest the exchange of messages and opinions raised at the site Corollary, referring to the failed call to file a petition to the authorities of Culture of the City of Buenos Aires, episode occurred between November 2006 and April 2007 and still continues its evolution.
As I have already been cited repeatedly for clarification purposes and update information about others, I am writing to request that you publish this in the same place which have been issued the reference (my computer skills and my patience has not been my intention to fruition solve directly).
understand that there is no need to elaborate on the motivations of the covocatoria. In messages sent to various networking sites and discussion forums can follow the process.
My decision to try to involve ADICORA in the call is supported by the reality that is the only institutional body composed of many of my colleagues and myself which I participate. It did not seem right to move towards completion of the act without first having exhausted the bodies of discussion that would allow the accession of ADICORA. In the Assembly earlier this year, coinciding with the renewal of authorities, asked to include discussion of the topic in the agenda. The petition was accepted by the outgoing Executive Committee. Of the nearly 90 associated with the City of Buenos Aires Branch, came almost one third (29). My presentation was met by the arguments of other colleagues (most of them members of the current address), who accepted the justice of the claim, but rejected the proposed methodology. Put to a vote, the order of institutional took 3 (three) votes to 25 (twenty five) against and 1 (one) abstention. Subsequently, it was a personal decision to put to my colleagues on the Promotion Committee (Silberleib Marcelo and Fabio Valente), which we acted outside ADICORA, the appropriateness of suspending the mobilization waiting for the new Board of Directors of ADICORA solve some strategy. Those times happen at the moment and I suppose that the next meeting (June 10), there will be something new (and had a conversation during the first meeting of the Steering Committee).
In my opinion, the Community Choir is a group that includes ADICORA, but extends more broadly to other members of the Community (coreutas, composers, journalists, producers, relatives), we have no organization as such. I hope ADICORA make a positive resolution in a reasonable time for once and - if possible - for ever, the coral has a space language ongoing sharing of resources for the common good. This implies: scenarios, newspaper, computer, design, recording studios, personal, etc. And schedules planned and organized from the relevant structures, including coral language in its various expressions. All this without having to affect the already rich dynamics that thankfully we can generate outside the official area.
For a definition of "elitist" I read in one of the messages, let me clarify to whom it is issued, you do not need a "slip" to enter the Choral Directors Association. The "titles", such as scores, is a tool and a testimony, but not a sufficient condition. Several of the directors who share ADICORA lack of "slips" and endorse our condition can change from our mere background and consideration of our colleagues. Among other things, the Association to share experiences and organize to obtain community benefits.
A final paragraph, with particular target, "Borinquen" is the name the original inhabitants of Puerto Rico gave his land. Puerto Rico is far from Peru. Almost as far as the right of anyone to doubt the nobility of my intentions when I get involved in affairs of my activity. Also define attitude as "bite" to the possible mobilization of Coral Community is something that, in the '70s called - to paraphrase Landru - "fat lady things."
An affectionate greeting to you and who, with his well-meaning contributions enrich the forum. Javier Zentner
"
not convince me the tone used by Zentner, where he shares a few slaps to several friends of the house (I also received mine in another mail), but I agree with him various topics. In particular, I agree that it is a good time for FCBA ADICORA is issued in terms of mobilizing support or not, having spent 6 months! the original call.
The problem is that we all know, elections were held yesterday in Buenos Aires, and the result looks rather discouraging for those who intend to invest in cultural areas. Neither participants next ballotage seems very committed to promoting cultural events, and that one of them is the minister of Education and Culture.
Perhaps for this reason, now more than ever necessary mobilization.
also agree that not every statement to the authorities should be considered a picket line. As I said, I think the picket a demonstration of arrogance, which generally leads to rejection and subtraction possible accession of other sectors of the community (unless the subject is really valid, as in the case of citizens of Gualeguaychú). On the contrary, a demonstration organized and out of the way the normal development of the rest of society, it seems a perfectly valid application to be noticed by the authorities.
But again, I really like the tone used by Zentner. Okay, in this blog and the comments in the post "no turning A march" made some insinuations about his person and his possible motivations for organizing this movement (I apologize for the part I played), but anyway I think that for it to have any chance of success, it is imperative that we are all united and pulling in the same direction. Even with all our differences, we are all in the same boat, and if we fight among ourselves, we will not achieve anything positive.
May we all bring a bit of goodwill and willingness to help resolve the question, and move forward on this initiative.
I look to await their comments,
Johann 
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